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Aaron Maté: CIA Still Runs 12 Secret Border Bases In Ukraine, Even As Trump Breaks With Zelensky
He made the claim in an interview for Napolitano's Judging Freedom podcast, recorded on Election Day, Nov. 3, in an episode titled "CIA and MI6 vs Trump in Ukraine."
Maté's source for the bases is a February 2024 New York Times investigation, which as Ukrainska Pravda summarized it, described a CIA-supported network of spy bases built over about eight years, including 12 secret locations along the Russian border, with a partnership dating to 2014.
"How pervasive is the CIA in Ukraine today?" Napolitano asked. To which Maté replied:
"Well, it's so pervasive that it was the one that orchestrated this drone campaign against Russian energy facilities that Trump recently started opposing. It was Trump's CIA that came up with that and was helping Ukraine do that. And Trump was on board with it until he needed something to sell voters on ahead of the midterms, whereas war on Iran was causing such a spike in energy prices."
Maté said Trump has since pulled back and criticized Volodymyr Zelensky, "the CIA, as far as I know, is continuing its operations as normal," and that it is "still helping out with targeting" and "still providing intelligence."
The Billionaire Question
Napolitano then said that Alastair Crooke had told him the CIA has financial resources from outside the U.S. government, and asked whether the CIA in Ukraine is being funded by anyone other than the Treasury. Maté said that when an agency wants something done off the books, "you'll get a friendly billionaire or, you know, or some or a friendly corporation to do the work for you," calling it "intelligence tradecraft going back a very long time."
He put George Soros "at the top of the list" of billionaires involved in Ukraine: "Already in 2015, Soros' foundations were saying that they'd spent $181 million on Ukraine since the fall of the Soviet Union." The figure checks out as a 2015 number. An Atlantic Council piece from Dec. 14, 2015 said Soros "has provided over $181 million in support of almost 17,000 civil society initiatives in Ukraine." The Soros-founded International Renaissance Foundation, which dates to April 1990, now puts its total at about $380 million.